10, '12 6:54 PM
By Regner Capener
to you, Oh Great, Wise, and Illustrious Ones!
When's the last time you had a Good Morning greeting like that!
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we with our previous discussion on tribulation vs. wrath, I didn't want to do a
full Coffee Break on the outcome of our election, but I would like to make a
few observations that are relevant to our discussion on the wrath of God and
raise a few questions for everyone to think about.
the same time, it is critically necessary for me to state emphatically (for the
sake of those who will quickly jump to conclusions) before we get into this
commentary that (1) while this post may be regarded by some readers as
political, that is not my purpose; (2) my objective is to address some genuine
spiritual issues facing us as Christians, AND as Americans; and (3) I am NOT an
Obama hater. I simply cannot and will not align myself with the agenda he has
to the latest exit poll statistics taken on November 6th, there were 42% of
Protestant and Evangelical Christians (with 25% who specifically identified
themselves as Evangelical or Pentecostal) who voted for Obama in this election.
Although that's down from 57% four years ago, it still begs the question. How
in the world do folks who classify themselves as Bible-believing Christians
vote for someone whose agenda incorporates support and funding for the murder
of unborn children? How can people who claim to have Jesus Christ as Lord and
Savior of their lives support a leader whose agenda includes tearing down the
definition of family and marriage -- a tradition which has stood for not less
than 6,000 years?
gets worse, folks! Despite a call from a very large number of black Christian
leaders to vote otherwise, blacks who call themselves "Christian"
voted 70% to support Obama and his agenda.
more, in spite of strong condemnation from American Catholic bishops of the
current administration's support for homosexual marriage and ongoing promotion
of abortion, as well as a warning to Catholics of spiritual consequences, a
solid 50% of Catholics voted for another four years of the same policies that
are dragging this nation into the gutter, and towards the judgment of God!
the numbers are still pathetic, at least 32% of the Jewish vote went to Romney.
That's a historic high for Republican support -- and a ten percent improvement
over 4 years ago. That improvement can be attributed in large part to the
administration's overt hatred of Israel and kow-towing
to Islamic leaders, along with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's
active campaigning for Romney.
friend of mine made the following observation to a group of evangelical
Christians whose paranoia of Romney's Mormonism was quite obvious. "We're
not voting for a national pastor (or Shepherd for the body of Christ)," he
said. "We're voting on the President of the United States." Put
another way we could say, We're not electing a Pastor-in-Chief, we're electing
for a variety of reasons (the least of which was his Mormon roots) Mitt Romney
may not have been my first choice to lead this nation, that didn't make him
unqualified. Considering this nation's current financial and economic dilemma,
and the moral morass into which we are sliding, we could not have had an easier
choice as Christians.
the choices that face America are far less related to a political party and
much more related to an increasingly intense spiritual crisis. My comments and
questions are not specifically directed at the Democratic Party despite the
fact that the DNC is rapidly leaving traditional Democrats in the dust. By the
same token, I'm no great fan of the RNC because of political compromise within
the party leadership which more and more creates RINO's (Republicans In Name
Only) who fundamentally reject some of the party's most basic constitutional
concern is with America as a whole. My concern is with Christians who are
spiritually asleep, Christians who somehow have shut off their
"discerner" gift from Holy Spirit and justify their choices because
of personal pocket-book fears. Let's make it even plainer. They like being on
the dole from the Federal Government. They like federal handouts and ignore the
long-term consequences of those handouts.
is a byproduct of a poverty mentality that has permeated the body of Christ,
reinforced by the Fear of Death and an absolute lack of trust in God's
faithfulness to keep His Word. I actually spoke with a woman yesterday who
openly acknowledged that she voted for Obama because she was afraid Romney
would take away her food stamps.
"Christians" ignore the spiritual consequences of electing leaders
who are driving forward an agenda which perverts the Word of God, and they
think it doesn't matter because "this is just politics, and we have to
have a separation of church and state!" They close their eyes to the fact
that they become guilty of moral and sexual perversion by virtue of their
passiveness towards it, and their active support of those who promote it.
THIS IS NOT JUST POLITICS!!! Political choice results in spiritual consequence
-- either for good or for evil. If we choose for evil, the judgment and the
wrath of God are what we head for.
get something straight. I said it before and I'll say it again! I am not an
Obama-hater! But I hate the sin, the wickedness, the evil that he has aligned
himself with. I grieve for Barack Obama because I know what will befall him if
he continues to push this agenda. He has no idea what lies ahead for him if he
continues to promote such an anti-Israel stance, his words of support
the same token, people who consider themselves to be Bible-believing Christians
are plunging headlong into the wrath of God who think they can continue to
ignore the Enemy's unfolding schema. That's where we are going with today's
discussion on the wrath of God.
me conclude this commentary by quoting from the 139th Psalm where David writes, "Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I
grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred.
I count them mine enemies."
isn't talking about people as his enemies; he's talking about
wicked spirits, idols, idolatrous purposes. Consider what he says next.
"Search me, O GOD, and know my heart, try me and know my
thoughts; and see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way
need to see this in the Hebrew text. Where the KJV translates the text to read,
"and see if there be any wicked way in me," the Hebrew text uses the
for wicked, and dehrek
for way. The word, 'otseb,
is more accurately translated idol (as in something which is
fashioned, either by hand or by thought), whereas the word, dehrek, means: a course of
life, or a mode of action.
those that hate the Lord, those who are His enemies, are the idolatrous spirits
that rise up within men and women. When men and women align themselves with
those wicked spirits and come into agreement with them, whether passively or
actively, they subject themselves to the same wrath and judgment that awaits
Satan and all who fellowship with him -- whether passively or actively!
been talking about the wrath of God as compared to tribulation, and we finished
up last time talking about how His wrath is targeted against anything and
anyone who deliberately and unrepentantly seeks to pervert His creation and
restate what has already been said, Creation was set in motion for the express
purpose of creating a species of being who would be like God, created in His
image and likeness, set in an environment where this species of being would
have the opportunity and responsibility of duplicating here what already exists
in Heaven. The primary objective for the creation and existence of this species
was so that the Lord would have for Himself a family of beings with whom He
could fellowship and share who and all that He is at His level of existence.
perverted that. Eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
contaminated and began to pervert both the existence and the DNA of this
species -- US! None of this caught God off guard. He was not taken by surprise
when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and
Evil. A redemptive plan had already been initiated by and through Jesus Christ,
of whom John writes as having been
"slain from the foundation of the world." (see
purpose of God's redemptive Plan through Jesus Christ was to recapture and
restore to relationship with Him those who had been the "servants (more
accurately, the slaves) of sin." It was an opportunity with consequence.
Choose the redemptive and restorative Plan made available by and through Jesus
Christ, or choose to continue to live as you please in and under sin.
redemption and in so doing enjoy the benefits, the privileges, the Covenant of
life -- both now and in eternity -- along with deliverance from sickness,
poverty, disease and the curse! Have access to what the world inaccurately
refers to as "the realm of the miraculous." Live in the midst of
God's grace, His mercy and His Love! Have power over all disease, all sickness,
all weaknesses of any kind; access to the Blessing of God with wealth and
riches -- mental, emotional, physical, spiritual and financial -- beyond
natural understanding. Have authority over all the power and works of Satan.
the other hand, choose to live as you please, ignore the redemptive price that
Jesus paid, and you live under the curse. With that curse comes sickness,
disease, poverty, weakness, mental and emotional diseases, the affliction(s)
that come as a byproduct of the dominion of evil spirits, and -- when all is
said and done -- if one does not repent, they will experience the wrath of God
in a dimension they don't even want to think about.
we get too far along here, I need to point out something regarding the wrath of
God. Except for the wrath of God being exercised against Satan, his hosts and
all who rebelliously align themselves with him, (and that wrath
is determined for eternity!) the anger of the Lord is not long-lasting.
already noted that -- for the most part -- God's wrath is redemptive. His
objective is to bring His people back into fellowship with Him. That said,
let's take a quick look at some things Isaiah was commanded to prophesy.
"In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment;
but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith
the LORD thy Redeemer. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as
I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have
I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor
rebuke thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my
kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be
removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on
the context of what Isaiah is saying. This Word is targeted towards God's
people, Israel, during a time when they were chasing after idols and other
gods. The Lord is making clear the fact that, even in the midst of His anger
towards them for their adultery towards Him, He will still keep His everlasting
Covenant by showing mercy. They would still feel His wrath, they would still
endure captivity, they would still suffer at the hands of their enemies, but it
would only be for a time, after which God would once again extend favor and
getting into the entire prophecy (you can read it in Isaiah 10) or quoting the
entire passage here, let me extract one piece for the sake of illustration. In
this instance you have the wrath of God again being executed against Israel for
their whoredoms and their hypocritical representation
of Him in the earth. This time He takes advantage of the neighboring enemies of
Israel whose hatred of the Israelites is not simply a case of political
jealousy, but rather an intense hatred of God Himself. Because the nations of
the earth knew that Israel was God's chosen people, they took out their hatred
of God on His people.
we have God's people in rebellion themselves, behaving contrary and
antagonistically towards His Word to them. So God permits the surrounding
enemies who hate Him to exercise their military might against Israel as a means
of pouring out His wrath, and then turns around and exercises that same
judgment against the enemies of His people. Watch how the Lord does this! (see
"Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord
hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish
the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high
looks." Now look at verses 20-23 [NASB]!
"Now in that day the remnant of Israel, and those of the
house of Jacob who have escaped, will never again rely on the one who struck
them, but will truly rely on the LORD, the Holy One of Israel. A remnant will
return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God. For though your people, O
Israel, may be like the sand of the sea, Only a remnant within them will
return; A destruction is determined, overflowing with righteousness. For a
complete destruction, one that is decreed
[against Assyria], the Lord GOD of hosts will execute in the midst of the whole
who've been programmed with the religious slop that says "A loving God
would never allow wrath and judgment and tribulation to come upon His people"
unfortunately do not see the larger redemptive picture. They don't know the
heart of the Lord. What a lot of folks seem to miss is that God is far less concerned
with the comfort of His people, and far more concerned with the development of
His character in them. For lots of people, it is no small thing for them to get
rid of the contamination and perversion of their hearts, their minds, and their
souls. The more they resist the dealings of God, the greater the pressure that
comes to bear in their lives.
one more aspect to this picture that we need to cover before we quit for today.
people ignore the redemptive plan of God made available to them through Jesus
Christ, they open themselves wide to demonic activity in their lives. Often
folks blame God for the things that have befallen them, and they fail to
understand that the things happening in their lives are a direct result of
Satan's anger and wrath directed towards God.
the prophecy against Lucifer the Lord ordered through Isaiah: "That thou shalt take up this
proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased!
the golden city ceased! The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and
the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in
wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is
persecuted, and none hindereth.........Yet
thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of
the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider
thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did
shake kingdoms; That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the
cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?"
only a tiny part of the entire decree against Satan from Isaiah 14. Ezekiel was
commanded to also prophesy against him, and he expands (in Ezekiel 28) on the
picture of Satan's pride, his arrogance, the unbelievable conceit he had to
think he -- as a created being -- was equal to or superior to God.
in Revelation 12, is taken back into eternity before time began to see the war
that occurred in Heaven when Satan, in his arrogance and pride, rose up against
God. John sees the devil defeated, not by God Himself, but by Michael and his
angels acting at God's direction. Satan is cast out into the earth where he
gets locked into time. From this point forward, every bit of fear, hatred and
anger in the core of his being is targeted against God and against His creation
-- including mankind. The fact that God gave possession of the earth to mankind
(Psalm 115:16) and relegated his existence to a time-space dimension only
increased his hatred.
Satan's wrath. Hence, the chaos that follows him. Hence, his desire to take
control of the human race in order to get back at God and destroy any chance of
the Lord having a family. Hence, his desire to usurp the place of the Bride of
is where we will leave this discussion. Now you can understand the wrath of
God, and where that wrath is focused. And -- finally -- now you can see the
difference between the wrath of God and tribulation.
be back soon.
Our Founding Fathers were just as afraid of the tyranny of the
masses as they were the tyranny of the king. They had witnessed in the French
Revolution what happened when the masses ruled, and they established in our
Constitution firewalls against the tyranny on both sides. Both of these
firewalls have been breached or torn down altogether now, and as the Founders
warned, the Republic cannot now long survive.
Jefferson warned that the Republic could not last if the people learned that
they could vote for themselves the resources of the national treasury. That was
breached a long time ago, and we are now at the point where the entitlement
mentality it has created in the masses is about to destroy us. We were led down
this road by both the Democrats and the Republicans. This is not sustainable,
but one is not likely to get elected to office if they even talk about trying
to correct this. We are now very close to collapsing the whole system. Then
elections will no longer be held at all and we will face a terrible tyranny. We
will first face the tyranny of the mob, and then we will face the tyranny of
the former Labor Party British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, is now warning
everywhere he goes that the entitlement mentality that has been created will
destroy Western civilization if we do not stop it now.
Obama become one of our greatest Presidents? Interestingly, President Obama,
who many think is purposely trying to weaken America and Western civilization,
may be the only one who can now turn this around and pull us back from the
precipice. Obama does not have to run again, and he can do what is right
regardless of the political consequences. He has the potential to be one of our
greatest Presidents if he is given the illumination, and then has the courage
and the support to follow it. That is how I will be praying. He is in the best
position of all to save us from the pending economic doom, but if he doesn’t
change course, he will go down as the worst President of all time, because the meltdown
will begin on his watch.
Clinton, along with the Republican Congress, started to turn us around on this
road to collapse. They made brilliant choices and remarkable progress. As
Christians, we are commanded to pray for our leaders, not just those we wanted,
but those we have. I for one will be praying that President Obama be given the
wisdom and understanding to save us instead of destroying us. He could do
either. If he does the right thing, we will all be winners. If he does not, we
will all be losers.
(excerpted from a prophetic word this week by Rick Joyner)
Blessings on you!
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