August 20, '21 2:37 PM
By Regner Capener
Hiya, Folks! This is the
best day of your life! Sure it is. Yesterday’s gone, and tomorrow isn’t here
yet. Fact is, you’re downright dangerous! Hohohohoho…….
Now wouldn’t you rather start Friday like that instead of some old cranky, wheezy, whiny, “I jus’ don’t know if I oughta get outta bed t’day or not! My bones are jus’ so tarred! Reckon, I gots to, though. Won’t get nuthin done in bed…..groan….”
See. Get your spirits livened up. Get your mind alert. Grab a good cup of that super dark-roasted French Roast in your French Press, or somethin’ like that! Wake up, sleepy!
you’re among the new subscribers reading this for the first time, the first
three parts of this series are available at http://www.AnotherCoffeeBreak.com. If you would rather
have them in printable format, let me know and I’ll email them to you. My
thanks, by the way, to all of the comments I’ve received from so many of you. I
appreciate knowing that you are being blessed and encouraged by this sharing.
more note: some folks have asked me how I can remember so much detail from an
event that took place nearly 60 years ago. Honestly, much of what I experienced
is still so vivid in me that it is almost like it happened yesterday. Other
details have refreshed in my memory just by sitting back and being quiet before
the Lord. Beyond that, my cousin Dawn’s request for me to have this experience
actually recorded like this was the timing of the Lord. As I have thought back
to the event much has come back to me, and the more I think on it and write,
the more the Holy Spirit refreshes my memory. In some ways it is almost like I
am re-living the event again.
left off in the last Coffee Break just as I was meeting Jacob. We’ll pick up my
conversations with him momentarily.
of the things I’ve neglected to mention thus far is the modes of transportation
experienced in Heaven during this trip. Sure, there were the walks that I took
with some of those with whom I conversed as well as the hand-in-hand walks with
Jesus. There were, however, those times when – as we were talking – we were
suddenly “blinked” into different environments or locations. By that I mean
that the image of the place being described was planted in my mind and “blink”
(or faster than you can blink your eye) we were there. No, it wasn’t a vision:
we were actually in the new location.
there were the times when walking with Jesus that we came to homes – palaces
would probably be more of an accurate description – and we simply passed
through the walls. Doors weren’t necessary to gain entrance, although I didn’t
see any buildings or structures without doors or windows. You’ll excuse the
pun, but the architecture was simply “out of this world.” In many instances
what I saw defied natural understanding, and yet it all seemed so logical and
simple while there in Heaven.
an example, I saw towering buildings that seemed to be made of some kind of
metallic transparent material. There were elegant and adorned paths or walks
leading to where you would expect to see some kind of doorway, but people came
and went from those “buildings” (Sorry! I just don’t know what else to call
them.) passing through what appeared at first glance as solid walls. In one
instance when I approached the “entrance” the wall dissolved into a transparent
opening. It looked solid, but I could pass through it as easily as if walking
through a natural open doorway.
already noted previously in this series, I was constantly surrounded by a light
that simply radiated from everywhere. Revelation 21:23-24 best describes it
“And the city had no
need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did
lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which
are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring
their glory and honour into it.”
years ago, I put a portion of the 89th Psalm to music. Psalm 89:15
describes my experience very well:
“Blessed is the people
that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O Lord, in the light of thy
it! Not only did I walk in the literal light of the Lord, I was surrounded by
the joyful sound of praise and worship – continuously – 24 hours a day (grin).
Of course there was no time being measured by the clock while I was in Heaven,
and yet I was aware of a passage of equivalent time during my stay. To the best
of my understanding, I spent the equivalent of three days or so in Heaven (and
I’ll talk more about that later.)
his father before him, Jacob was ready for my questions and began answering
before I actually verbalized them.
first question – and it was formed as a thought – related to Jacob’s
participation in the deception that gained him the blessing of his father,
Isaac, in the place of his brother, Esau.
know what you want to ask,” he said, “so I’ll save you the trouble of asking.
knew the Blessing my father had received from Grandfather Abraham. I saw what
the Blessing of the Lord had done in Grandfather’s life and the extraordinary
place he had with God. That Blessing had been passed on to Father and he had
experienced many of the same things I’d heard of in Grandfather.
some reason I’ve never been able to understand, my brother, Esau, didn’t see
the value of anything spiritual. He easily gave up his birthright just to
satisfy the hunger of his flesh for food. There is spiritual value in the
birthright and I was glad he was willing to trade it away. In the years since
that had taken place, I had seen nothing in Esau that desired the same walk
with God that my father and grandfather knew. The Blessing was integral to that
walk and there was a thirst, a craving, something I didn’t know how to put into
words that cried out within me to have that same kind of relationship.
Mother saw that Father had decided the time had come to impart that same
Blessing (and we had talked about it many times) she contrived a way for me to
deceive Father. He had, as you know, told Esau to prepare him venison. It was
his favorite thing to eat and Esau was good at preparing it. Mother overheard
Father tell Esau that he was going to bless him after eating of his venison. She
knew how to prepare goat meat so that it would taste exactly like venison.
I realized what was happening, despite my fear that the deception would be
found out, it was unthinkable to me that Esau would get the Blessing because of
all the disparaging things he had said about it in times past. I knew it was
wrong to deceive Father, but the value of the relationship with God was worth
too much to me and I was determined to have that.
guess my problem was that I didn’t realize then that God saw my heart. Had I
been patient He would have seen to it that Esau wouldn’t receive something of
such great spiritual impact he would disregard and treat so cavalierly.
tell the truth, it was many years before I realized how much deception had
become a part of my character. It was ingrained in me and I just didn’t know
how to do things any other way.”
Jacob poured out his tale it was easy to see why the Lord had blessed him with
the Blessing of Abraham and Isaac! I saw in him that same thing that God seeks
after in His people today: the hunger and thirst for righteousness, the
insatiable craving for the presence of the Lord – the desire to know the Lord
in the same intimate way He knows us.
through Jacob’s eyes as he shared, I saw that Esau ultimately developed a
respect for who God is but never desired a relationship with Him. He saw the
Blessing of his father and grandfather as something that would make him rich
and powerful in the eyes of the world around him. He wanted the benefits of the
Blessing without being willing to pay the cost spiritually.
had paused momentarily in his sharing, and he continued.
remember when I left Laban’s house according to the
Word of the Lord to return home? Remember how, on the way, I was told that Esau
was coming to meet me?”
nodded my head as the scenes flashed before me remembering what I’d read in
Genesis 31 and 32.
the first time in my life I realized how much the fear of death had driven me
and why I was such a deceiver. I had deceived repeatedly throughout my life,
and I had been deceived in return. I hated what I was seeing in myself. Fear
had motivated so much of my actions that it was ruling my life. It had become
part and parcel of my character, my personality, my makeup.
the Angel of the Lord wrestled with me that night at the brook Jabbok and I realized who I was wrestling with, I saw the
opportunity for my character and nature to be changed by God in an instant. I
hung onto that Angel for dear life and when he said to let him go, that was the
moment for me to insist on a change of nature.
understand, don’t you, that names are more than identifiers of a particular
person? Names are prophetic pictures. They are character descriptions,
character references, marks of personality and makeup. Your name is Regner, but that’s not just some name your parents gave
you; it is prophetic and given by God to mark you as a king, as someone who
will rule and have charge – someone who will be given great responsibility in
and over the lives of people.
name was Jacob. It was my character. It was who I was and prophetic of what I
would be. I was a supplanter, a trickster, a cheat, a
deceiver. It was what I did when I first came out of my mother’s womb. I didn’t
want that kind of character anymore. My personality needed change – and only
the kind of change that God could give me.
the Angel of the Lord demanded that I let him go, it was my opportunity. My
father had blessed me and given me the Blessing of Abraham – my grandfather –
but it was time for me to have the Lord bless me directly. With that blessing
would come change and empowerment for change in my life.
that’s exactly what I received! The Angel said to me, “Your name will no longer
be Jacob – the deceiver, the supplanter – but Israel.
Now you are a prince, and as a prince you have power with God and with men. As
a prince you have prevailed with God.”
is not my name, or my character, or my personality any longer. I’m not a Jacob:
I’m an Israel – a prince, a ruler with God, under Him, and ruling by His
some ways by now my head was almost swimming. The revelations that were coming
forth from the back-to-back-to-back conversations with Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob/Israel were sinking in. A very different and fresh revelation of the Lord
Jesus Christ was unfolding for me. I was beginning to see and understand the
difference between people who mouth the name of God – in essence, using God’s
name in vain – and those who have paid the price for a real, personal and
intimate relationship with Him.
Abraham’s obedience to that at-first-unknown voice of God, and then pursuit of
a relationship with Him in an era when literally the whole earth was following
after false gods – man-made gods – Isaac’s pursuit of that same relationship
and obedience to the Lord under impossible circumstances, and the heart-cry of
Jacob that God heard and responded to, bringing and changing Jacob into Israel,
I saw the heart of the Lord for genuine intimacy, for fellowship, for
communion, for an interchange of real love – not just cheap words – with
mankind. I was seeing and understanding Creation like I’d never understood it
of Creation came into being so that God could have intimate fellowship on His
peer level with beings like Him, made in His image and likeness, whose
character and personality would choose Him and fellowship with Him at all costs
above everyone and everything else!
saw for the first time that Satan’s treachery in the Garden, and his deception
of Eve did not catch the Lord by surprise. He knew it was going to take place.
He was ready for it. And in that knowledge He set the stage for people to
choose Him over and above all the enticements that the world would offer, and
over and above all the enticements that Satan would present with his wiles and
was the overcoming process! I was seeing the pattern unfold. In that instant
there was an inkling of what I was likely going to hear in all of the
conversations that would unfold in the time/days/period to come while I was in
Heaven. If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel were any indication, this overcoming
process was going to be repeated again and again and again in the stories and
adventures I would hear shared from Moses, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc.,…… not
to mention Peter, James, John, Paul and the other apostles.
of the things I wanted to talk to Jacob about was his experience when he first
left home and saw the staircase into Heaven with angels ascending and
descending. This was of particular interest to me since I had experienced
something nearly identical some four years earlier. The main difference between
my experience and Jacob’s was that he saw the Lord standing at the top of the
staircase; and the Lord spoke to him on that occasion to reinforce and reaffirm
the Covenant he had first made with Abraham, and then Isaac.
described the appearance of the angels as “innumerable” on a stairway – almost
a circular staircase – that spiraled heavenward. Whether the Lord simply gave
him telescopic vision to see into Heaven or whether He shortened the distance
for the sake of Jacob’s experience (and mine, for that matter), Jacob said that
his view of Heaven was as if viewing through a widening portal. He could easily
see the Lord standing there.
experience of seeing a stairway to Heaven is not unique to Jacob. Others have
experienced this too. I may or may not have shared with you the experience we
had at the Calgary Stampede in 1995. Lindsay Roy (now Lindsay Rempel), a young lady we consider as being among our
adopted daughters, was working with us (we were helping friends use “The
Country Kitchen” as a means to raise funds to send kids to summer camp) when
she had an experience of seeing a stairway coming down out of Heaven and angels
coming into the midst of the crowds at the Stampede fairgrounds. She was
surprised to see them change appearance as their feet touched the ground, and
they appeared as normal people.
wasn’t just a dream or a vision. Lindsay saw something that was actually
happening – even though to her it seemed as a dream or vision. She shared her
experience with all of us. Michael and Melissa (Sharpe) were working with us
and they decided to take a break and get a latte from the Starbucks’ stand a
little distance away.
was saying to Melissa as they walked, “I sure would like to see something like
that.” A tour bus had stopped fairly close to their path and people were
disembarking and mingling. Michael turned to see a lady standing close by.
Without any other word of introduction, she said to Michael, “I’m one of them,”
and proceeded to vanish. You can bet that Michael and Melissa beat a hasty path
back to the kitchen to tell us what had just happened.
it wasn’t a Jacob’s ladder experience exactly, but close enough! This was no
dream. It was one of many unusual supernatural experiences we had during our
originally planned to talk about Moses next, but think I’ll hold that for
later. I’ve been revisiting my experiences and conversations with David.
Because it is so fresh right now I think we’ll go there in our next Coffee
next week’s sharing about David – and it may run a bit longer than the usual
Coffee Breaks – I’ll be taking a break for the Christmas season, and will
return early in January.
Heaven V: David.
Never have we seen such a time in
history as this! Never has there been a more urgent need for the pursuit of the
presence of the Lord in our lives! Never has it been so critical that the body
of Christ understand Jesus’ parable of the ten virgins!
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